with updates through 0900, all reflected below. After that time, reports on the Internet and in the world's media ballooned into dissonance. Consequently, this post conveys the initial confusion, the speculation, and some false reports generated during the initial hours after the explosions.
At this time, 37 people have been confirmed as fatalities and 700 were injured from four separate bombings, three in the London Underground and one suicide bomber on a double-decker bus.
Prime Minister Tony Blair has spoken to and for the British people and the G8 world leaders in condemning the attacks while voicing a resolve not to be swayed by terrorism.
Every other conceivable aspect of the story is being vigorously pursued by the media and the blogosphere, with many sources linked to this post. Accordingly, I have no reason to continue updating this entry. It's more appropriate to investigate and report the multitude of eventualities and ramifications of the attacks in separate posts.
Reports indicate that traffic congestion has resulted from fire and ambulance services crowding the streets. There are no reports of injuries yet.
From network news, two deaths have been reported, presumably from the bus explosion. Six total explosions are said to have occurred.
In all incidents of this type, terrorism is suspected, however, there's no indication so far. The subway and the bus explosions are being reported as coincidental. I don't believe coincidental explosions occur.
In a quick press announcement at 7am, PM Tony Blair calls for calm and vows to defeat those that committed the "barbaric" terrorist acts. Blair will leave the G8 Summit and travel to London.
All public transportation in and around London has been suspended.
Rescue operations are underway in six locations.
There is an unconfirmed report that Scotland Yard received a warning before the explosions. It's probably false.
At least 100 people (unconfirmed) are injured. Royal London Hospital reports 95 injured, 1 fatality.
A suspicious package believed to be an unexploded device has been found. Also, London police said traces of explosive have been found at one site.
An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.
Shortly after 0800 EDT, Tony Blair read a joint statement from the G8 leaders, stating that the attack on London was an "attack on all nations" and violence will not change societies or values.
Scotland Yard reports that seven explosions occurred and there was no prior warning. Government officials have closed the underground system for the day. Currently, the only vehicles operating in London are cars, taxis, and bicycles.
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All those cursed Qaedas Bush trained over there in Iraq are now wreaking havoc.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:07 AM (ScqM8)
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We are British, no-one intimidates us. We are not Spanish, we will not change our government, we will not pull out of Iraq, we will stay the course. 30 years of vicious terrorism from the Irish didn't stop us and neither will Islamic extremists.
Posted by: k at July 07, 2005 06:23 AM (PM/BC)
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Get these sick asian twats out of Britain NOW
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 06:26 AM (KF1fi)
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K, Blair and Bush stirred the goddamned Qaedas and then they attacked - wake up!
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 07, 2005 06:27 AM (ScqM8)
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Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated.
Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 06:42 AM (PM/BC)
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Wow I woke up at 5:00 this morning and it was so quiet. Decided to sleep till 6:00. Woke up to a statement by Tony Blair. Britain is taking it on the chin for Supporting us. Also ABCNEW reports that some terrorist websites are claiming responsability. Thanks Mike for getting this up for us. Feel free to update as you see fit. I'll drive on in to work. I thought Mr. Blair's statement was good. He seems particularly upset and I can see why. Here is a pretty good quote from his statement. I'll be back online about 8:00 cdt.
"Whatever they do it is our determination that they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear in this country and other civilized nations throughout the world," Blair said.
My thoughts go out to our good friend. News indicates terroist statments threaten Denmark and other countries if they don't pull out. So see you guys later. I'm severly bankwidth challenged right now and have lot's to do so Mike have at it. I will have some time to help if you need it. Drop me an email if you like.
Posted by: Hoiwie at July 07, 2005 06:44 AM (D3+20)
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It'll be very interesting to see how the majority of Brits react to this considering the amount of dissention over there.
You also have to wonder when they'll get back to the States.
Posted by: elliott at July 07, 2005 06:57 AM (XlQVK)
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The number of expolsions have been downgraded from 6 to 4. The number of deaths have been upgraded from 2 to in the 'double digits' with a least 100 unjuries.
Attacks occured against both the bus system and the metro. Both have been shut down. It is unclear whether the bombs were detonated remotely or by suicide bombers.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 07:02 AM (vO/b3)
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Elliott, When the dust settles you will see how the British people reacts.
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 07:12 AM (KF1fi)
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I often wondered how long it would take for the terrorists to strike somewhere else besides the airlines...remember Spain a while back? It will be interesting to see how this affects other mass transit systems around the world. I wonder what it's going to do to London now? Is everyone going to stand still and be afraid to take the transit system now?
It's only a matter of time before they strike here again. This is devastating news to transit systems worldwide and it will definitely have a domino effect...the economy's going to suck from the losses of people not taking the trains or buses anymore.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 07:17 AM (L3PPO)
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London's Mayor Livingston just spoke. His message to the terrorists was profound. "You will fail."
And just like DSM to blame everyone except those who commit this and other acts of terrorism.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 07:48 AM (YudAC)
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Hello,
This is interesting. Is the IRA (or similar group)? Is it an Iraq War-related thing?
I noticed a poster called "K" wrote: "Downing Street memo, you are an appeaser, and spineless, and Muslim probably, also you are uneducated."
Judging from what DSM wrote, "appeaser" doesn't appear accurate. There doesn't appear to be any evidence to suggest DSM is a Muslim (not that this should affect review of poster's content. Note: Suggestion of same would be fallacious).
Thank you for your time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:00 AM (hvJmm)
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Well it did't take long for the bastards to attack us on our soil, maybe we will now realise the pain america went through, and get together and blast these fuckers back alla
Posted by: BUNKER at July 07, 2005 08:03 AM (y/P3u)
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Rusty, any word on American Muslim reactions here at home to the bombings -- i.e. in Muslim neighborhoods here, in U.S. madrassas and mosques, even in U.S. government offices? What are they saying/doing? I'm thinking of the "celebrating" on 9/11 in some quarters.
Posted by: jordan at July 07, 2005 08:04 AM (7y04D)
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I can't decide if DSM is a terminal contrarian or just a bloody idiot.
Posted by: traderrob at July 07, 2005 08:10 AM (3al54)
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:17 AM (D3+20)
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On NPR this am the British parlament minority leader was on. He heads their security commitee. He confirmed at least six and possibly seven expolosions.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:25 AM (D3+20)
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 08:30 AM (D3+20)
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DSM
Listen you Quisling...realists and students of history KNOW that even if every American/Brit troop left both Afghanistan and Iraq TODAY the Islamists would do nothing more than ESCALATE their attacks.
Because their ideology towards the kaffir is "convert, submit, or die" and their goal is a Worldwide Caliphate with every one under Sharia.
People like you should be under surveillance.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:45 AM (FgfaV)
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Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror. No one intimidates us. Since 9/11 we have expected this and were able to plan for such an act of terrorism as best as any country can. As we British stood "shoulder to shoulder" with America during 9/11, I know that the vast majority of Americans will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with us. The terrorists anger towards us, pales into insignificance with our determination to beat them. And we will. America, watch and witness the amazing courage, determination, calmness and controlled response of British people in the face of vicious terrorism.
Posted by: K at July 07, 2005 08:49 AM (PM/BC)
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K
I'm in CA and woke up to this story only an hour ago.
Hang in there. You know a majority of Americans will stand with you against the Islamo-fascists and their apologists.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 08:50 AM (FgfaV)
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My heart goes out to the victims of this vicious cowardly attack. I pray that those lost are at peace, and that those affected most directly by this will have their creator close at hand. I also pray that vengeance for this craven act is swift and devastating to those that continue to make the death of innocents their primary purpose.
I also hope this leads to the downfall of another tyrant who would gladly support this type of activity. Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia come quickly to mind.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 09:03 AM (jPCiN)
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A despicable and cowardly act. I suppose it was only a matter of time before another attack, but it's still saddening to see.
Posted by: Venom at July 07, 2005 09:04 AM (dbxVM)
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Britain, know this: We here in the USA have your back. ..and woe betide the animals who perpetrated this atrocity. The bile rises in my throat at people who could even contemplate such attacks. They picked the wrong target> Despite the Galloways of the world, this is still the Britain of WInston Churchill and MArgret Thatcher. THere is a core of iron in the British people that I think that Al- Quaeda will regret stirring. I don't live in AUstralia, but I am sure I speak for them as well.
As for the rest of Europe. . wake the hell up. What in thae name of god makes you think that you won't be next? Paris? You think you are safe? Germany? You know very well its only a matter of time before you are hit, and the question becomes this - are you going to roll over and expowse your soft yellow underbelly or actually grow a spine?
Posted by: RYan MUrphy at July 07, 2005 09:09 AM (UF8Bd)
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:10 AM (fl6E1)
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THis column was shortly after 9-11. Still, I think most of its content applies to the British just as well as Americans
http://www.celebratelove.com/lpitts.htm
Posted by: RYan Murphy at July 07, 2005 09:17 AM (UF8Bd)
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"People like you should be under surveillance."
How about six feet "under"?
Posted by: Kevin at July 07, 2005 09:25 AM (pfvPv)
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I think this fits the Brits here and now:
"When you get to the end of your life, would you exchange one moment from this day to that for one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that you may take our lives but you can never take our freedom." from Braveheart
We are in this WITH you just as you backed us in our moment of hell. There just ain't no understanding the rage of the lions when they are attacked - and yet, the 'monsters of terrorism' is pushing the envelop again. I wonder now, if their stomachs won't be churning more acid in fear when they see the flags of the Brits and Yanks raised highers and side by side coming at them. If they aren't, the cowards of terrorism are in for more surprises.
Prayers are with you Brits. We won't forget.
Posted by: Dale P at July 07, 2005 09:42 AM (WYvOv)
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Ryan: That letter from Leonard Pitts was spot on. I remember reading it right after 9/11, but it still rings true and it still elicits the emotion we felt then and feel now.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 09:50 AM (fl6E1)
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/free.uk.talk.london/msg/7708d079750e5740?hl=en
Posted by: pikkio at July 07, 2005 10:02 AM (6eXCj)
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Hello Dale P,
You write something from the movie Braveheart and presumably connect it to today's unfortunate event. This strikes me as odd.
William Wallace took up arms against the English king Edward I.
I don't think the parallel works well, unless maybe you are rooting for those who did the bombing against English people today. You see, the English were invaders of the Scottish kingdom and the Wallace fought a guerrilla war against the English in England in response to foreign invasion and occupation.
Your historical analogy would work better (as stated prior) if you were a booster for the bomber fellows.
Thanks for your time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 10:20 AM (hvJmm)
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The next stop of the Circus of Terror will be here, in Italy.
I'm sure of this; Polony is not an interesting target and it havn't many muslims.
Posted by: Mirco at July 07, 2005 10:36 AM (76BwD)
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I've been reading some Euro blogs, and as I suspected, there are many, many people blaming America, but so far I haven't read one comment by someone who blames the islamoscum. Liberals are such morons. Well, I say that if they're not any smarter than that, they will get more of the same, and I hope they enjoy their dhimmitude.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 10:39 AM (0yYS2)
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Latest news here is the UK is 45 dead and 1000 injured one way or another.Also rumours of a bomber being shot dead in Docklands (East London) and of Israeli embassy being warned minutes before first explosion but police denying all knowledge.
Its an appalling day, but how can you completely protect against such lunacy? I pity the perpetrators - hatred doesn't really fix anything but I can understand those who feel it.......saddest thing is Mr Blair and Mr Bush probably see this as "acceptable civilian collateral damage"....
Pray for us.
Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 10:40 AM (4q6Ab)
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I will pray especially hard for you Paully. I will pray that you can understand that to pity the perpetrators and make a claim that Bush and Blair find this acceptable is the thinking of one who has already surrendered.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:03 AM (jPCiN)
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DEFENCE GUY - your arrogance is what makes the US such a globally despised country. Being english and being eminently reasonable I was politely avoiding the issue that, if Bush and his bumboy Blair hadn't fabricated the evidence they needed to start a war against "terrorism" and the apparently world-threatening Mr Hussein, these people wouldn't be dead at all.
I hope you weren't one of those who voted him into power.....sleep tight.
Posted by: Paully at July 07, 2005 11:24 AM (4q6Ab)
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No, actually. What makes us despised is our power, plain and simple.
There was nothing polite about your initial post, so drop the English gentleman pose.
As far as fabricating evidence, it might interest you to know that every single Western intelligence service thought that Hussein had weapons.
Posted by: Shralp at July 07, 2005 11:35 AM (1hRqD)
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Yes Paully, because before we went into Iraq, these terrorists never did a damn thing to anybody. That you put terrorism into scare quotes as if it is imaginary says a lot about you and your thinking.
By the way asshole, you didn't avoid the subject which is why I called you on it.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 11:37 AM (jPCiN)
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>>>"Laura, there is no other nation on earth that can absorb crisis with such calmness and professionalism as Britain. As I before stated, we are not Spanish. This makes us more determined to win this global war on terror."
You Brits are among the toughest most resilient people the world has ever produced. But I wonder if even you have not been corrupted by the Leftism that has descended over the West like a malodorous cloud. Has it sapped your will to fight? Will you now try to "understand" your enemy? We shall find out in the next few days if you're any better than the Spaniards.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 11:38 AM (tFXpR)
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'An unknown group (Italian?) claims responsibility for the attacks in the name of al-Qaeda. Possibly bogus.'
Absolutely Bogus! While the Italians may hold Bush, Blair and our War in Iraq in contempt, they have nothing but the greatest admiration for the American, and by extension, the British people. That's a fact that you can bank on.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 11:51 AM (Q+rdl)
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It is Ironic that the ex Mayor of New York Rudi Giuliani was having his breakfast next door to Liverpool St Station the same time as the first bomb blast went off this morning. He said "The terrorist who commited this callous attack will be brought to justice"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (KF1fi)
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Seamus: You're obviously from the other side of the fence to nitpick in this fashion. Dale P simply re-iterated a quote which can be used universally regardless from whence it came.
Shralp: Well put. It's Paully's type that keeps giving these terrorists the moral support they need. Way to go, Paully. You've had nearly 4 years to come to the right conclusion. Time's running out. Even so - I pray that you and your loved ones are spared.
Posted by: Oyster at July 07, 2005 12:10 PM (fl6E1)
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Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back. From this side of the pond, it looks like these Islamofascists are invading Britain, having had great success in France, Germany and the Netherlands.
I'm really, really in Britain's corner on this one. They need to stop the public incitement to this sort of thing that's been allowed for way, way too long.
Posted by: Dan at July 07, 2005 12:37 PM (XYoed)
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From an American with a heavy heart today, I send you my deepest sympathies and condolences to the great people of the UK. You are in my prayers. I thank you for supporting America in her time of need and I will encourage my countrymen to return the favor and support the UK in her time of need. The downing street memo is a terrible truth, but make no mistake, this war between radical Islam and free societies that value tolerance and liberty would have occurred even if G. Dubya Bush had never invaded Iraq. Stand as One, courageous in defense of freedom.
-kk
Posted by: kk at July 07, 2005 12:57 PM (scces)
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I often wonder how people manage to so completely make themselves blind to the obvious. Islam is a very large elephant in a very small room, and everytime it knocks something over, some people still refuse to even take notice. Islam is anathema to civilization, and no amount of mewling platitudes will change that. You can't appease a mad dog, you can only kill it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at July 07, 2005 02:00 PM (0yYS2)
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Improbulus Maximus....Please stop using big words like marmalade to make yourself look intelligent....Just say what you mean "Kill the murdering BASTARDS"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 02:08 PM (KF1fi)
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Hi, I´m Louis from Argentina, I truly feel sorry for what has happened, you may find this hard to believe, but I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind,
just like any other free place.
Watching all those desperate people suffering for their loved ones hurt, even not knowing them.
No simple human being should be suffering for the
decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins) But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes.
feel free to send your comments, CHEWACCA@GMAIL.COM your opinion will help me open my mind even more and maybe make friends and not war. I love you all who make peace and love and not a blood bath.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:12 PM (WWEQ3)
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"In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to the Party propaganda. Once when he happened to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs that fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, 'just to keep people frightened'. This was an idea that literally had not occurred to him."
Eric Arthur Blair, AKA George Orwell, '1984'
Remember, it's fiction, pure fiction. Gosh! Golly! That Orwell, what a moonbat! Tinfall! Tinfall! Gitcher tinfall rot hair!
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:14 PM (PnMkz)
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>>> "I am sorry because the Uk is a part of our world and in part belongs to all mankind,"
Luis,
I knew the instant I read this touchy feely hogwash platitude that it would soon be followed by a dig at Bush. But the rest of your post made some sense.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:19 PM (tFXpR)
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Carlos: Is it possible we aren't the only idiots around?
YBP (Fellow idiot)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:21 PM (x+5JB)
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I have no problem with bush or the american people with who I lived with when I was in new york for about 10 years of my life, thanks for your comment Carlos, anyway you have to accept that not everyone will think as you. That´s why the system has tought you well. It would be nicer if people were more humble and really cared for life and not limits. There is something that will really destroy us all and is not terrorism.
It´s massive resource exploit.
Once the earth says no more, we will crack apart
and you never know when that is going to be, earth does not warn in the newspapers unfortunately Carlos.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:28 PM (WWEQ3)
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"But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.
"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said."
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:31 PM (PnMkz)
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Our thoughts and prayers from America are with you. May God bless Londontown and all it's fine people. God Save The Queen.
Posted by: Jim in Boston at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (H1wS0)
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And that is something every single one of us forgets.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:33 PM (WWEQ3)
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No simple human being should be suffering for the
decisions of a few cowards (I refer to Bush/Blair twins)
Well, I see Louis is ready to embrace Dhimitude. Why Louis? Got a problem with females so you want them covered up and shackled to the home? Yearning for 4 wives? Looking forward to strapping bombs on your body and blowing up a few infidels and Jews and "earning" yourself 72 virgins?
WHO THE HELL do you think bombed the WTC in 1993?
Jaysus on a Pony, Western Civilization is under direct attack and you blame the USA/England!
Do us all a favor and drown yourself, you immoral appeaser.
Posted by: Darleen at July 07, 2005 02:34 PM (FgfaV)
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God save the Queen? What did the Queen give you?
She along with 4 or 5 more morons rule our world with us like puppets from their tight strings, go to africa and see the childrens eye balls being rubbed by flies, while the Queen receives a call
from her group of British Petroleum confirming the sales profit.
I think the Queen has had too much of a good time already.
She never left her palace, and looks like she lived in a criogenic state. Nothing seems to
stop her from making money out of all of us.
So let´s better save the earth which is the one
renting you the space where you live.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:41 PM (WWEQ3)
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Regardless of Louis' stance on the war, he does not advocate the murder of civilians. He is not a terrorist. He has the right to speak up and voice his thoughts along with anyone else here, no?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:44 PM (x+5JB)
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Louis
The terrorist who commits the type of act seen today could not give even one shit about the state of 'mother earth', and if they have their way you won't be allowed to either. Keep that in mind when prioritizing.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (jPCiN)
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Thanks ybp, for understanding that i´m not a terrorist, i want us all to see good news everyday
not wake up between crap of few.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:47 PM (WWEQ3)
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YBP: yeah but he could have stopped at his support for those who died and left the debate on money and greed for another day. But it's easy to get baited into changing the subject. Myself I think we should mainly express our support for out ally here.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 02:49 PM (D3+20)
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Loius is right about the queen. She's a whore. Why should we give a shit about her, after all we rebelled from the lineage of her monarchy.
I never understood America's fascination with the bitch. Piss on her and her inbred brood.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 02:50 PM (PnMkz)
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Louis,
the Queen of England didn't cause poverty in Africa. Africans have been poor and miserable since they learned to walk on two feet. British colonialism actually raised their standard of living, and they've been going dowhill ever since they gained independence.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 02:51 PM (tFXpR)
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I agree with you defence guy as I have posted before "But this issue has two realities, one, the fact that if muslims reach nuclear power, they would like to profit and rule us all, Two, if there is no resistance to their waytoplay (the US/UK WAY)we will all end up chained in our ankles to a black steel ball pumping oil diamonds gold silver and any other profitable resource for these nuclear mosquitoes."
>I guess that reflects the idea, which is similar to what you say, we may not be so different after all, if there is some life in all your hearts, i´m not here to make you guys upset, i´m here to exchange ideas, but for some of you´s it makes me feel like if you had a nuke right now, you would start the 3rd ww on the ones who don´t agree, and that would be walking backwards instead of advancing and learning from errors, MAN is the only animal stumblling with the same stone twice.....
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:52 PM (WWEQ3)
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Gee, Greg, how do you really feel?
You want to wear a dainty little crown, too--ADMIT IT! (Kidding.)
Howie: Agreed. We must be with the British all the way. The National Front certainly has some new ammo after today.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:53 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 02:55 PM (x+5JB)
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Hey!! Louis, I totally agree with you. The Queen is nothing more than an old fat ass with a totally invented position in the UK society.
Posted by: Belu at July 07, 2005 02:58 PM (WWEQ3)
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Carlos have you got anything against blacks? Your destiny was fine being born maybe in the Uk,
If destiny was differnt for you, you could have been born there too, As per your name you sound more like a latin trying to look like british.
Carlos? where did you get that name from?
If you were british, you should be called Michael or George, or Edward but calos sounds from Colombia.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 02:59 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis, behave before I take back what I said.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:01 PM (x+5JB)
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I understand Louis point and stand by his side all the way. It seems like patriotism is all together over rated and western people is ready to act as fanatic as eastern people. The only difference is that one defend a religiuos point of view and the other defend basically MONEY.
And the Queen is a senile, bitch who doesn´t give a damn about other people.
Posted by: Martin at July 07, 2005 03:02 PM (WWEQ3)
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What, has the world become full of Johnny Rottons?
God Save the Queen.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:05 PM (x+5JB)
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Loius,
Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America. It is so strong that he hates his own people. What could be more sad than that?
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:07 PM (PnMkz)
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greg,
Yeah, and your hate is such that you hate your own country, pot -> kettle.
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:09 PM (fsJ2z)
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Greg, have another iced cappuccino and chill. What did Carlos say that was racist?
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (x+5JB)
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Last contact from me, I am right now leaving home from work, Again my deepest feelings with innocent simple people, families and friends of the victims, but not with the supporters of a
world resource proliferation.
One last thing I am positive about, Bush is an old friend of Bin, never worndered why Bin was never caught? Bacause they are bloody friends.
2 hours before 9/11 Bush already knew about the flights, as he supported all the planning of such
attacks, also backed up by the israeli.
Finally they blame it on Alqaeda, which only rented the suicide hijackers.
Think with the 2mb of ram you still got, you string pulled puppet army for the Queen.
Long live peace tolerance and love, that´s all
you will get to take when you take your last trip.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis
Who the hell would I nuke? No, I have no problem with people who have a dissenting opinion, but I have a major problem with those who would use violence as an form of political speech. I have a problem with those that would excuse it as acceptable, or who would turn the blame from the criminals to the victims. I also have a problem with those that think it is just fine that the opression of man continues, so long as it doesn't happen here.
I would caution that if the terrorists do use nukes, we will be obliged to follow suit. It may be the simple fear that we will wipe out Mecca that keeps them from doing so. Remember, a muslim cannot reach paradise if he has not completed his pilgramage and he cannot do so if it is gone. I hope and pray it never comes to that.
Posted by: Defense Guy at July 07, 2005 03:11 PM (jPCiN)
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I love the American people, I despise our government.
Get it Dave?
Now go slurp some government cock, bitch.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:12 PM (PnMkz)
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I agree to that Defense guy too, we are closing in to a similar idea.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:14 PM (WWEQ3)
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Dave,
Here you go, have a kleanex. There's something on your chin.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 03:22 PM (PnMkz)
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Greg, belu, Martin, Defence guy Young bourbon professional and Carlos, thanks for changing words here, I wish you all a nice no more bad news day, and remember that what makes us special is the freedom of choice. We will never truly have that while seeing extreme poverty in one side of the planet and extreme wealth in the other end. The rest depends on the 4 or five monkeys we vote.
Have a nice evening,
Friend of evrysingleoneofyou´s
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:23 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis,
I'm an American who has lived in Africa for a number of years. I have also lived in South America for an even greater number of years. I love Africa and I once considered it my home. But I don't romanticize the poor like you irrational Leftists do. Kenyans in particular I found to be lazy and dishonest. I don't trust them any farther than I can throw them. If you hired them for a job, they'd stop working as soon as you turned your back. If they are still poor it's because they are generally a lazy and corrupt people. And it's a lot worse in other parts of Africa. 98% of the money we send them goes down the shithole. Don't blame the Queen of England.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (tFXpR)
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All my love and solidarity after this coward terrorist attack againts the London and British people. This was not only an attack against you, british, it has been an attack againts all of us in the WEST from the Fascist Islam. They will never prevail on us. Never.
Pedro Avilés
Journalist and Blogger
Madrid, Spain, EU
www.elreporter.com
Posted by: Pedro Avilés at July 07, 2005 03:24 PM (6aB7n)
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As an American I want to tell the people of the world to stop. Stop blaming the Republicans, Conservatives, and whatever other names you choose to call the people that are sick to death of the crap that pours out of some of your mouths, The G8 summit for instance, is it or is it not taking place to create solutions to problems that you protesting unemployed liberals are raising cain about and here you are again, disrupting the proceedings. What happened in London this morning is a damn shame, but it isn't to be blamed on Bush & Blair, Geez give it up Please start blaming the ones that are doing this. The ones that are killing innocent people. Stop protecting them with all these Human rights, Equal rights BS. I would kill a vicious dog that harms one of my loved ones and not even blink an eye. What makes you people think that they even remotely deserve to be treated humanely, Were the people who were burned and buried alive in these bombings treated humanely.
Posted by: Terri at July 07, 2005 03:26 PM (HSi9I)
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Pedro--You might want to ask Howie to take off some of your information for safety reasons.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at July 07, 2005 03:29 PM (x+5JB)
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I would if I knew how. I'll look into it later should Pedro request it. In the mean time Pedro don't be an idiot like me.
Posted by: Howie at July 07, 2005 03:32 PM (D3+20)
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greg,
did I hit a nerve
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 03:36 PM (fsJ2z)
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From this way we are take off the Islas Malvinas (Falkland Islands). Anyway, i'm consterned with the explosions.
Posted by: Diego at July 07, 2005 03:39 PM (iOy71)
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Pedro, comprendo tu ira, pero sos un pelotudo hijo de la monarquÃÂa española que degolló indios en america por oro y plata, lo mismo que la reina.
Les pasa lo que les pasa, porque pasan los años y se hacen los que se olvidaron y asi america africa y asia sigue en la marginalidad absoluta,
mientras vos seguramente tenes un buen sueldo y te tiras la plata de putas en tu departamento haciendote el reportero star.
Anda a lavarte el orto.
Translated to english by me myself, jeje
Pedro, I understand your anger, but you are a frican ashole yourself, as Spain your country
also supported piracy a lot of years ago, and
killed millions of indians by their back like rats, then raped their woman, and slaverized their kids for sweeping your boats.
I´m sure you are a reporter that have a nice apartment nowdays, and fuck whores daily with
the nice money you earn, pretending to be a star reporter for a phony magazine.
I did not get upset about the solidarity with the victims, I scandalized myself because you refer to the fascist islam like your Spain was disneyland.
Jerk asshole Spain has the wealth it has due to millions of killings, while indians welomed you
with gold and silver you offered mirrors and a big spade on their backs.
Assshole
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:40 PM (WWEQ3)
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>>>"Carlos is an example of the insidious racism that is rampant in America."
America is the LEAST RACIST country on the planet. I have lived on three continents and travelled on four, so I know this from personal experience-- not from brainwashing at Liberal universities, like you. Argentina is possibly the MOST RACIST country on the planet (after Spain).
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 03:49 PM (tFXpR)
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Gee, where is COOqarUK when ya need him? For anyone that's been on the blogs a while, you will remember this english chap as totally against the Iraq invasion, and totally against his leader, Blair for allying with us.
Us American bloggers would tell him, "if this happened in your country, what would you say then?"
Sadly, this has now happened there, and I still wonder what he would think now.
I say let them all kill each other and leave Iraq and to hell with them. That is NOT letting the enemy think we are chicken shit. These sleeper cells are all over the damned place, what makes anyone think that continuing to fight in Iraq and finding Osama and Zarqawi's gonna stop the bombings??
We need to focus on those already here first, and make sure no one else gets in.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 03:53 PM (L3PPO)
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Not really Carlos, jews flew when the wwII, Spanish came to eat too, Italians also had a room, while the rest of the world was raining in blood, the fact that you have travelled so much does not mean you haven´t missed historical genocides. If you are above 40 you know perfectly well what I mean.
Anyway, Everyone horrorizes about recent events
because we have no pictures or video of US colonization and fumigation of indians, as the same happened in the US with the indians, it all comes back but with better weapons, that´s all.
Men don´t learn from passed mistakes carlos, or we would already have a better world.
Anyhow, i understand your point and in some way agree to some of your sayings.
Posted by: Louis at July 07, 2005 03:56 PM (WWEQ3)
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Louis,
you know that when an Argentinian calls somebody a "Boliviano" he means one thing-- inferior indian. You know that anybody in Argentinina who isn't blond and blue eyed is a "Boliviano", spit! It is an openly racist country-- unlike the U.S.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:07 PM (tFXpR)
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British, you get wath you deserve, wath the hell you think you are?
Posted by: billy at July 07, 2005 04:24 PM (aHzGL)
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"Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast
13:30 Jul 07, '05 / 30 Sivan 5765
(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.
The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit."
This from the mouths of the Israelis themselves. Why the fuck weren't the British people warned? To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast.
Posted by: greg at July 07, 2005 04:25 PM (yzwgH)
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>>>"To those of you who are so cock sure that this was an Al Qaeda job, I say not so fucking fast."
greg,
I'm fond of you, you know that. But you're a fucking lunatic.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 04:28 PM (tFXpR)
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I think we all see where Gregs posts are going, from Israeli advanced warning -> Mossad agents + U.S Government plot to cause chaos in London in order to boost the support for the war in the U.K.
let me just save you about 4 more posts till you "gently" suggest the above.
Posted by: dave at July 07, 2005 04:47 PM (fsJ2z)
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Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on?
and Billy...I have only two words to say to you and the second one is "OFF"
Posted by: Rodders at July 07, 2005 04:48 PM (KF1fi)
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GEEZ, people! It bitching amongst yourselves solving this terrorist problem? No! Here we are, tearing ourselves apart, insulting and wailing because we have some differences of opinions and then pointing fingers at Bush, Blair, the Queen, and Africa. The people who deserve the blame are the people who set the bombs and then sang and rejoiced afterwards. Blame them, they actually did it. So, around 40 people were killed, maybe 700 or more injured. And we deal with it how? By tearing each other's heads off? By insulting one another? Big fucking deal. That's not solving anything. It's in times like these when we need to lose the hysteria and start figuring out a way to make sure that shit like this doesn't happen. Screaming at one another accomplishes nothing and further divides us all. So suck it up, act like civilized people, and start using your scathing wits to come up with a solution to what's happening. And when we're all done with that, we can figure out a way to make sure that when the shit does hit the fan, people don't start hitting each other with ill-considered words and threats. This is precisely why these folks bombed London-- to divide us, and cause chaos, so we can destroy each other. The way to fight their agenda of division is cooperation and unity to solve a collective problem. Screaming and bitching won't change the fact that there are 40 people dead and there's lots of work to be done. So come off it.
Posted by: Amy at July 07, 2005 05:21 PM (c7cZk)
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no political rants here.
I've read a lot of posts from all over the world today, pointing fingers, blaming one or the other, voicing opinions that would make Hitler happy.
I hope people will sober up and realize that this is a war. The world is truly changed.
Stand tall and proud, England. There are Americans who love you.
Posted by: Ron at July 07, 2005 06:53 PM (6krEN)
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I'm so fed up with people who speak as if they knew everything and everyone... Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them. Though many people do, my friends, family and I never call someone a "boliviano" when we want to insult them, so stop saying "Argentinians this and that". Speak about what you know!
By the way, we call them "pelotudo". And that's what I'm saying to you.
Posted by: Pamela at July 07, 2005 07:00 PM (35+dl)
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Amy, although I appreciate what your saying, the fact that we are all screaming, ranting and raving is because we CAN'T stop this! It's an invisible enemy...they've been here a long time, plotting and planning, there are sleeper cells everywhere....you can close the borders, blah, blah, blah, and tighten security but these assholes are already IN....your neighbor next door, the guy who owns the 7-11, anyone's fair game.
I can almost predict where the next hits are going to be, but judging how many people post on these blogs and how a terrorist was actually found and captured through the blogs, I will not say where they will most likely happen, so as not to give them any ideas, but then again, they already know about these areas.
Pretty soon, you will be frisked when you go to the supermarket...it's not gonna be possible to go anywhere in public without going through some security gate or being searched...you think the lines at the airport are long now? Wait till you have to wait in lines at other places too.
Posted by: Laura at July 07, 2005 08:06 PM (L3PPO)
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>>>"Carlos...US not openly racist?...What planet are you on?"
Nope, not openly racist. You want open racism go to Europe and South America.
>>>"Carlos, how long have you lived/stayed in Argentina? It must have been many years, if you could meet every single Argentinian (but one-- me) and know what they think of people or how they insult them."
Pamela,
Nobody ever stopped criticizing the U.S. simply because they didn't meet "every single American", so I don't intent to stop criticizing racist Argentina simply because I have not met every single Argentinian. I've met enough of them, and I've met the people they call "bolivianos". If you're not a racist, that's great-- and neither are most Americans. But I'm talking about ARGENTINA, not Pamela. And Argentinians are FAMOUS for their racist Euro-wannabe attitude. Get this through your thick skulls, YOU AREN'T EUROPEANS.
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 08:39 PM (8e/V4)
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Hello Oyster,
The poorly applied quote from the movie fits poorly when we look at historical background. That is, it appears to fit the bomber side better than the occupier side.
Hi Dan,
You write: “Seamus: I'd say the quote works incredibly well, unless you're claiming that Britain is invading the Muslims and they're fighting back.”
This is an easy claim to make in a historical fact and logic sense with a small caveat: UK troops invaded Iraq. This much is clear. UK troops (Royal Marines, etc…) did not ‘invade Muslims,’ so to speak. It is helpful to understand the meaning of terms and how they are applied. One cannot invade a Muslim in a military sense.
Then, you mention, “Islamofascists” (a term with a lot of baggage) invaded European countries with success. You seem to be referring to immigration. “Invasion” does not seem like a good working idea here, i.e. many of these immigrants are naturalized citizens and some have work visas. ‘Invited’ “Invaders” might work better.
You then mention you are on BritainÂ’s side. I would hope you will regard Blair and Bush quite critically then.
Thanks for the time.
Posted by: Seamus at July 07, 2005 08:48 PM (hvJmm)
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greg,
sorry to burst another one of your bubbles:
From Powerline blog:
"I'm afraid we may have an urban legend in the making. Benjamin Netanyahu is in London to give a speech at an economic conference, and it has been reported that he got advance warning of the impending attacks:
Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.
The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit.
This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner:
I have just spoken to a source very close to Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu was scheduled to speak later today at an economic conference in a London hotel directly above the site of one of the subway explosions.
"The explosion happened just beneath the hotel at the same time the meeting with businessman interested in investing in Israel was expected to begin," said an aide to Netanyahu.
There were published reports early this morning that Scotland Yard officials contacted the Israelis minutes before the attacks to warn them of imminent terrorist strikes.
My sources in the Israeli Government are denying those reports. They say the Israeli Embassy and the Netanyahu security team received reports immediately AFTER the first explosion, warning Netanyahu not to go to the hotel.
"There was no early information about terrorist attacks," said Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom on Israel Army Radio. "After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear."
I'd be surprised if left-wing and anti-Semitic groups don't seize on the incorrect early report to spin out idiotic conspiracy theories, just as they did with no provocation in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks."
Posted by: Carlos at July 07, 2005 09:12 PM (8e/V4)
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Far too late, Carlos. The anti-semitic slime like Raimondo are already on the job.
Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:33 AM (xauGB)
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Meanwhile, I see that greg still has that filthy mouth.
Posted by: SPQR at July 08, 2005 12:37 AM (xauGB)
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You Brits are damn right we Americans are with you. As an expat living (somewhere) in Europe, I can say with authority you're about the last nation in Europe who remembers your principles (aside from G. Galloway, that pathetic little tit, and his buddies, that is).
The rest of them, lead by the ever-courageous French, are willing to sell out our history and culture to appease these Islamofascist death merchants. Well not me. Not on this boy's watch.
But there's more than one reason we stand with you. It's not just values and ideas. It's that you can stand on your own, and you retain enough self respect to pick up and go on.
I was amazed at the will in the eyes of the Londoners on the television last night, and it has only increased my esteem and respect toward your great nation.
Posted by: Mikey at July 08, 2005 01:52 AM (Rbewf)
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Seamus - Thankyou for YOUR time as well. I am well aware of the history behind William Wallace. However, the statement I used was certainly not meant to be construed (at least by me) at THIS time for anything other than a specific focus on saying to an enemy (and that DOES apply to the cowards that attacked London this day)that they may take our lives but not our freedom - and that DOES apply to any freedom loving person anywhere. Wallace may be the 'originator' for the statement, but the statement itself says volumes to any freedom loving person wherein some terrorist would try to steal it by killing and maiming.
The rancor obviously still felt by some about Wallace and Longshanks is not what I had in mind or to be an insult. I just thought the statement fit the bill because I believe the Brits ARE also freedom loving and would defend it to their deaths. I really think you misinterpreted how the statement could well apply, though it may not be the best in everyman's eyes.
I find it interesting that because I use a 'universal' type quote for freedom loving folks, you take it as though because it came from Wallace who fought England, that I support 'the other side'. Please think again. Many here are more interested, as I, in the welfare of those Brits that fell in harm's way today and pray for their swift recovery, and for the families of those lost - our sincere condolences and support, and for all of England, never give in.
Posted by: Dale P at July 08, 2005 02:10 AM (39PE9)
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Good Morning All
Scotland Yard had the scum that commited these bombings under surveillance for weeks, and now they have mysteriously vanished. Anyone that is suspected of being a terrorist should be arrested and interrogated, Whatever their nationality. In Britain we are processing a greater number of asylum seekers weekly and in those towns that they are sent to the crime rate has increased (Rape, Assaults, Theft, ect)....How long do we have to put up with this? We also have extremists on our streets recruiting young lads to become terrorists...I think Mr Blair will have to get his act together before the people do it for him
Posted by: Rodders at July 08, 2005 02:42 AM (KF1fi)
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Carlos:'This report has now been corrected; there was no warning until after the first blast. A correspondent wrote to The Corner:'
Carlos, don't you know that history is being rewritten and vanishing down the 'memory hole' on a daily basis? I hate to burst your bubble, but you're a fucking idiot. Stop slurping on that government dick, you're going to ruin your teeth.
'The report has now been corrected', just as the Ministry of Truth 'corrected' reports in the book, '1984'.
There is ZERO evidence that this attack was done by Al Qaeda. Only a decree by Big Brother. I for one do not love Big Brother.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 03:23 AM (EoFYh)
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When freedon is referred, is it freedom to choose betwen brand A & B (and eventually C), between lies and more lies or between bad and worst? the freedom claimed to be defended is just a good excuse good enough for mindless people. people who dare have conclutions on their own might have quite a different opinion than people who do not. that is bad enough for them.
Posted by: ignasi at July 08, 2005 04:42 AM (AscQ4)
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Hello Dale P,
Thank you for the reply.
Okay.
Posted by: Seamus at July 08, 2005 04:55 AM (hvJmm)
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Good morning, back to catch up and already seen very interesting things from all, that´s good, because at least we can read and open our minds.
It´s been quite rough to read what you guys say to each other including me of course, but it´s all
about different points and knowledge of the facts.
You all know, very deep inside we all love each other.
Louis
Posted by: louis at July 08, 2005 06:07 AM (WWEQ3)
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the only way to defrat these monsters is with visions and poetry
Posted by: ed at July 08, 2005 07:37 AM (2Y6+9)
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greg,
your rumour mongering is EVIL.
"I can tell you unequivocally the reports are false. Israel, including our representatives in London, did not receive any prior notice of pending terror attacks," Mark Regev, senior spokesperson for Israel's Foreign Ministry, told WND. The only alert we received was a call to our British embassy immediately following the first explosion. That call was routine, and was also placed to other foreign embassies in London."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45163
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:14 AM (8e/V4)
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Carlos,
The assertion that these bombings were perpetrated by Al Qaeda is baseless. One wonders if Al Qaeda even exists. At least, one with half a brain. It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies.
Now go be a good prole and love Big Brother. He is watching you.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 09:41 AM (0gh4z)
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"It is just as likely that it was a Psyop intended to reestablish control over the proles who have grown restless with this war born of lies."
Yeah, it worked wonders in Spain. IT WORKS AGAINST BLAIR NOT FOR HIM.
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 09:45 AM (8e/V4)
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It's working on you and the rest of the ditto head crowd.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 10:04 AM (0gh4z)
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Come on Carlos, say the truth, what would you choose if you had only one truly single choice?
A) to be protected against these attacks with more pressure on irak
B) to protest against Blair for them?
Mark with an X the selected option.
A starting at a 2 year old human child would choose A after waht we saw.
If some of the British were still doubtfull
about the Irak occupation, this attack would
truly push them to vengance.
It´s not that i´m in favour or against, but you have to consider this issue as also valid.
Life is a chess game, and if you like chess,
you know some decisions can drag the oponent
to have to lethaly choose.
In this case, the media is also phsychologically pushing it´s way through you showing people hurt
on the streets and the bus ripped apart.
Does not show the lives lost in Irak or Afghanistan by the occupation as even as the
pictures of the london attacks.
Thanks for your time.
Louis
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:34 AM (WWEQ3)
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Yes, point being is: SINGLE CHOICE.
However, there is no "single choice" for the response to the attack, and I believe that the response will be towards domestic protection of citizens via immigration reviews, and raids on terrorist suspects.
When the IRA bombed the United Kingdom, the response wasn't a call for war with Ireland, it was to root out the terrorists from their safe havens and to up civilian awareness of attacks, and to ask civilians to report suspicious people, packages etc.
Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 11:40 AM (fsJ2z)
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It simply seems like the army of propaganda in favour of this war is, they have been bad to us
as they have reach to WMD or Nuclear stuff,
which is true, but once again, who dropped th first nuclear bomb? Who helped saddam first and
supplied mustard gas for study and development?
Who started all this nuclear rage?
The same who are now critizizing and preventing others form reaching that sort of power,
So? What grants me that the countries that have
that power, will use it properly?
Something like a nuclear warhead has no "natural" use of..
In one word,
Everyone has to fear the countries that have nuclear power, and if another country wants it,
IT BECOMES A DANGER.
Yes, I agree, but why did all this shit had
to start in the first place?
Wanna war?
Blair in a boxing match against bin would be nice
and the one that losses, losses, that would be it.
No hunger or diseases to feel sorry for, no casualties.
Just a worlwide televised match between the
supporters of war, but that´s no bussiness to
big companies that make weapons.
So wars, invasions and shit like this must be
sponsored anonimously.
And that is only what I think.
I dont pretend you to agree.
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:50 AM (WWEQ3)
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That is also true Dave,
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:54 AM (WWEQ3)
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Unfortunately, due to all this, the damage is made to us normal people, like u and me, cant take no bus no more, or tube, gotta wach our backs and live our lives suspiciously, and that bothers me a lot.
The attacks are not in blair´s house or bin´s
tent as you can see, it´s the little war puppets
who die, and it can be any of my friends or relatives.
I hate this shit Dave, politicians are making us go through, and really don´t want islam to win or
anything similar to that because it can become hell itself,
But, applying your idea of security would be enough I think, and not INVADE directly.
They went to irak and found no WMD after searching for more than a year, so ?
have the army leave, thats it.
What are we waiting for?
You know there is another reason, and the world too.
Posted by: Louis at July 08, 2005 11:59 AM (WWEQ3)
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Louis,
I am sure you remember as do I, the political shift by the IRA to not only attack military targets in the U.K, but to take the "war" to the citizens via targetting citizens with bombs.
The whole shift was to sway the politicians by increasing pressure against the Government, believing that the U.K citizens would respond with fear and call for the removal of troops from Ireland. It didn't happen that way. The people of the U.K do not crumble in fear of terror, that has always been their way, it is commendable and an admirable trait. When you stop living your life, and bow to terror the terrorists have won.
I believe the terrorists will not "Win" against Britain with this bomb, just like they never win against Britain with bombs before.
Posted by: dave at July 08, 2005 12:23 PM (fsJ2z)
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3 oz tomato juice
1 dash lemon juice
1/2 tsp Worcestershire sauce
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Posted by: Homeland Security at July 08, 2005 12:58 PM (H1wS0)
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Nothing like a few bombings to make you feel like we are winning the "war on terror"...short of being a police state, anyone think of any bright ideas to keep things like this happening in NYC? I know many in here condemn Muslims, but I read a interesting poll lately that said most Muslims actually like Western values (which Bush says is opposite) but they in fact hate our policies and actions. Then again, I don't trust most media numbers and info. What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush? Will they rally behind him or feel betrayed that he has made monumentally stupid decisions with Afganistan and Iraq?
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 01:39 PM (perrS)
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Osama,
They will rally behind him and welcome Martial Law like good proles. Bush will become our dictator for life. Expect a staged terror attack. When it happens, I'm off to Italy to live for good. The large breasted girls here wear T-shirts that say, 'Make Love Not War'. It reminds me of the US in the 60's. I think Gore Vidal is on to something.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 02:15 PM (nPBFW)
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Shiiiiiiiiit. Well, Greg...I'll probably end up in Portugal since my girlfriend is from there. In that case we'll have to resort to insulting each other's olive oil and discussing the fallout from future "Osama Bin Hamburgler" nuke attacks on NYC/Washington. Or maybe we'll just meet up halfway in France for some freedom fries and steak? Just don't smoke any of those Italian cigarettes over there or you'll end up sounding like one of those maligned movie preview voiceover guys who sound like a 90-year old guy butt-fucking an onion.
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 03:40 PM (perrS)
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>>>"What I'm wondering is...if this happens again in the USA, how will Americans feel towards Bush?"
Was this a trick question? That's easy, the Libs will lose bowel control and soil their panties, and immediately demand that we give into all terrorist demands.
Conservatives, on the other hand, will simply be reminded that we are indeed engaged in a prolonged war on terror and strengthen their resolve.
The country as a whole will see how the Dems are nothing but big weenies and vote for another Republican when Bush steps down.
Posted by: Carlos at July 08, 2005 03:44 PM (8e/V4)
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butt-fucking an onion.
Osama,
I think there may be poetry in those words, but I'm not certain.
Posted by: greg at July 08, 2005 04:35 PM (xcNPe)
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Carlos...or it might go like this: The United States citizens will realize (as polls have been showing) that Bush is a colosal fuck-up and that through his actions he has created more terrorists, given them a new place to train and unified them to align against the USA. There's only so much quoting of John Wayne before you gotta deliver on the tough guy crap. Looks like Al Queda is smoking us outta caves or subway tunnels...not the other way around. I have the feeling you guys are so busy bitching about liberals that a terrorist could strap a bomb to your ass and set it off without you knowing before you could say "Durka durka!"
Greg, pass the petzels...
Posted by: osamabeenvotin' at July 08, 2005 05:00 PM (perrS)
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It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!)
I was taught that those who speak with perpetual vulgarity are showing what a limited vocabulary they have. I believe they were correct!
London, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality.
Bless you all!
We stand with you.
May the dogs, (whomever they are) the perpetrators of this deplorable act, find true justice.
Posted by: Mel in Texas at July 09, 2005 02:54 PM (bbxLM)
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"It never ceases to amaze me that even in the light of the human suffering we have seen in London, we still end up with the pathetic, mealy mouthed sniping about politics. (and might I add, in very poor taste and grammar!)"
Hey genius, maybe I should email you my posts to preview them before putting them up? Or would you'd rather wash my uncensored mouth out with your favorite brand of moralistic, preachy soap? If you weren't so *&@$#)* busy spamming the FCC every time someone says a naughty word, you'd realize the ugly truth: If you weren't so ignorant, you'd be able to look past what Jerry Falwell told you was acceptable language (between his blabbering to prostitutes) and listen to what people are saying in here regardless of the words your imaginary friend in the sky deemed as proper.
Oh yeah, as your new spelling and grammar helper, I've revised a few of your sentences:
"Iraq, we cry with you. We will not forget what happened to your people in these senseless acts of brutality. Bless you all! We stand with you."
Ah, that has a nicer ring of truth to it, no? How about...
"May the dogs in the White House, (all of them) the perpetrators of these deplorable acts in our world today, find true justice."
MUCH better!
Posted by: osamabeensellin'tinfoil at July 09, 2005 05:12 PM (perrS)
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DOWNING STREET MEMO: You are a piece of shit!
Your mother is raghead trash.
Get the picture? Creep.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 09, 2005 11:16 PM (CBNGy)
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Greyrooster/Bablar - you are a scumbag of the highest order. You smell like a used condom found on the floor of a jail cell.
Posted by: Downing Street Memo at July 10, 2005 05:25 AM (ScqM8)
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DOWNING STREET MEMO: Your mother is a condom. For any camel/goat fucking Islamofacist that walks buy.
You are shit. Shit of the lowest order. A coward.
Death to all that take sides against America. You should hang for the treasonous actions. Maybe, some real Americans can fix it up.
You need to be on the internet. In the same situation as Nick Berg.
You lousy sinking son of a diseased goat herder.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 10, 2005 07:47 AM (CBNGy)
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Gayrooster...
You lick the schmegma cheese from your wife's gonorrhea infected cock while finger-banging your son's itchy weevil bitten rectum. The SPAM truck is comin' for you and your days are numbered. May Nick Berg's ghost head float around you, spitting blood on your pointy hood till Babler, inc. relocate you to a nice project. Homies await your flabby old rotted ass meat for target practice. There are no margaritas in hell...
Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 10, 2005 01:18 PM (perrS)
Posted by: Sheik Yerbouty at July 10, 2005 06:44 PM (XBmnj)
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Sheik! How dare you come in here! I told you that your cell was only to infiltrate the unmentionable, unforgivable, unforgettable blog. I'll dock your virgins in the afterlife if you can't stay the course! Kaabah Laabbah Durkah Burkah!
Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 10, 2005 10:00 PM (perrS)
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for those who are winding bloody crap so easily about those who commited this bloodshed as well about those who still kill innocent people (specially) i tell them that instead of throwing useless acusations, to find out why this happened (and why killing is still happening today). you might not ever concieve curing, let's say cancer, in you don't know why it happens, so why don't you also do the very same? read, gather information and compare the sources and perhaps a solution might arise. and something to consider: when someone declares war, is exposing the people he/she represents to danger, anguish and possible suffering. it is brainless to determine the battlefield "there" and not "here". otherwise is naive, stupid and/or cynic (between others).
Posted by: ignasi at July 11, 2005 08:06 AM (Iog3O)
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I can see all the Dickheads have started now.....Playtimes over now children
Posted by: Rodders at July 11, 2005 10:35 AM (KF1fi)
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Ref Carlos,on 7/7, 11.38 on this very thread. You have watched and witnessed for five days now. Our government is still there and so are our troops in Iraq. As I before stated, we British are not Spanish. Thankyou.
Posted by: k at July 11, 2005 05:03 PM (PM/BC)
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K, you're a man's man for BLAIRing out your lovely support of a war misplaced. Now go molest yourself Gitmo style and get your teeth fixed.
Posted by: osamabinhamburgler at July 11, 2005 07:34 PM (perrS)
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Ignasi: You would make a fine cowardly terrorist. Your thought processes are the same. You obviously do not understand what manhood means or is about.
Based on your ascertions we should be bombing hospitals, buses, public housing and such throughout the muslim world.
Doesn't matter how you fight or who you kill. Right.
You need a shot a testosterone. A great big shot.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:06 AM (CBNGy)
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Rodders: Please show examples of where the United States in openly racist. I am in total disagreement with you. Hope you can show some REAL examples and not some silly shit from 100 years ago.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:20 AM (CBNGy)
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Louis: You seem to be wrapped up in this Africa black man thing. We to have seen television programs showing black African children suffering from poverty and starvation. Heart go out to any suffering child.
QUESTION: If America gave 100 Billion dollars in medical and food tomorrow how many more hungry children would we see in twenty years?
Ah! Not so simple is it. When you have a people that continue to have child after child knowing they offer them nothing but suffering what can we do. They are not going to stop fornicating. The more we feed them the healthier they become and they have more and more children.
You have a solution? The parents of these children obviously don't care what happens to them. Are you saying it is my responsibility? I had enough sense only have what I could properly care for. Sometimes reality must take over. Reality is that the African nations must mature on their own. We can send them rubbers and hamburgers. However, the truth is they will throw out the rubbers and eat the hamburgers and have more children.
Posted by: greyrooster at July 12, 2005 02:44 AM (CBNGy)
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greyrooster
if you don't want to understand the reason why, then you are equal to those who have blasted london. you think you are right just as they probably think they are. your unwillingness to even consider that not everybody should think the same is what feeds terror because you promote terror on your side. and by the way, you are ALREADY bombing hospitals, buses, housing and such throughout the muslim and not muslim world. if you are blind to this (willing or unwillingly), just put your arse in gear and come to know that the very fact that these atrocities are not in the headlines (and not even comented throughout mainstream newspapers) does not lesser its status.
you have the very right to ignore them, but that doesn not make them dissapear.
Posted by: ignasi at July 13, 2005 06:02 AM (Iog3O)
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I'm a Muslim and Islam always teaches how to be obedient to God and to respect all people irrespective of their beliefs. However even a nice mongrel if it is provoked and pushed against a wall will bite back. The madrassah in Pakistan teaches young kids to learn the religion and many as young as 12 years old can recite the whole Koran by heart. 9/11 is a result of American greediness plundering Arab's resources and supporting the most cruel regime in the world. Afghanistan and Iraq are just rubbing salt to the wound. As long as the majority still stupid enough to listen to all the lies - 'hate our freedom', WMD, Muslim terrorists, and other rhetorics-you will suffer from the fear of similar incidents. You have lost some of your freedoms. Some businesses have been affected. Mideast tourists are now coming to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia. The business is booming - thanks to bush/blair/sharon. Those affected directly/indirectly in the UK, you know who to sue.
Posted by: Muhammad Alwi at July 21, 2005 10:15 PM (fkGtV)
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Guys! You've started your own little war with your opposing opinions! Everyone has different perspectives, best you can do is agree to differ. You see that's my perspective. Now you can argue and say no we should express our opinions and convince others to adhere to these but then I'll be expecting that.
I'm just writing an essay on the opposing perspectives on the London bombings so I read your comments. Very interesting but yea then you started insulting each other which prompted me to comment.
Posted by: Hol at August 28, 2005 05:20 AM (Jnqcf)
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